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Thursday, June 13, 2024

GOP candidates come out swinging but did they hurt Romney?

Newt Gingrich: When in doubt, attack

GOP contenders for President tried to turn leader Mitt Romney into a collective punching bag at the first of two South Carolina primary debates Monday night but the general consensus is that the former Massachusetts governor emerged pretty much unscathed.

“It wasn’t one of Romney’s best debate performances but his opponents needed a knockout punch and they didn’t land one,” GOP analyst Andrea Collins told Capitol Hill Blue after the debate.

Most debate watchers interviewed agreed that Romney held his own while others felt former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich may have fired up his supporters with a typically bombastic performance.

“Gingrich won the debate on style but Romney is too far ahead at this point for it to make a difference,” said GOP strategist James Andersen.  “It was good theater but not a game changer.”

Some, however, felt Gingrich could gain momentum with another strong performance in the second debate on Thursday.

MSNBC talk show host and former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough says Gingrich could shock Romney in the South Carolina primary.

“Wow,” is how Scarborough describes Gingrich’s debate performance.

GOP activist Kelly Williams agrees.

“Romney was off his game,” she says. “He needs to pull it back together on Thursday or it could be a long primary campaign.”

While debate watchers disagree on whether or not Romney came out of the debate unschathed, they did agree that Rick Perry and Rick Santorum went nowhere.

“They were non-entities,” says South Carolina Republican Sam Sanderson.  “It was all Gingrich and Romney.”

And Ron Paul?  What about the third place finisher in Iowa and second place finalist in New Hampshire?

Loser, says Scarborough.

“Ron Paul lost the crowd,” Scarborough said Tuesday morning, citing the Texas Congressman’s weak answers on killing Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

“When he said we shouldn’t have killed Osama bin Laden, it was over for him,” Scarborough says. “When he starts talking about 9/11 and Osama bin Laden he turns off the crowd and voters.”

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10 thoughts on “GOP candidates come out swinging but did they hurt Romney?”

  1. My usual comment when I read a quote from a Santorum or anyone on that podium, is to “Throw the Bastards Out of Office.”

    BTW, I had a quick check done on Rocky Anderson and the only criminal record for him was a speeding ticket 20 years ago.

    We must never stop talking! Even if we are a tad off the mark, it is essential that we continue. We can straighten each other out when another opinion is needed.

    Doug sets the standards and subjects and we are the dogs of war to expose what needs to be done.

  2. Here… try this Santorum quote for counterpoint:

    “One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down, keep our regulations low, and that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. That is not how traditional conservatives view the world.”

    Guess we don’t need no traditionals, eh?

  3. There is no evidence we killed Osama bin Laden. Any proof was reportedly dumped into the sea by the military. Many believe he was killed in Tora Bora in 2001 due to the fact that he was on dialysis and he would need continued treatment which would have made his hiding near impossible.

    Then there was the myriad of videos which reportedly were of bin Laden but obviously were not. At which point his alleged tapes switched to audio only.

    Besides, bin Laden always denied involvement in 9/11 and was never charged in relation to 9/11.

    His death, if it occurred like our government says (shooting an unarmed man in the head), is a war crime. It doesn’t matter if it is popular with Americans. That is the sad part about this debate. Where is the rule of law?

    It’s been replaced by despotism. It doesn’t matter how much we hate someone. When we abandon and ignore our laws, we make it possible to ignore those laws with any one of us.

    Will the police simply shoot Doug in the head the next time he is caught taking pictures of their traffic stops during Floyd Fest?

    That’s where we are heading.

    So yes, they should shoot him in the head and we should all cheer because he broke the law and photographed law enforcement like a terrorist might do. Therefore, he must have been a terrorist or a terrorist supporter and doesn’t deserve any rights or protections, just instant death.

    We should also interrogate his family and hold them indefinitely just to be sure they aren’t plotting against our dear leader.

    The code is in place. This could happen right here in the USA this very day. Who will stand up for our God given rights and put these tyrants in their place?

    • You’re talking to the brain-dead Woody…

      I heard on radio today that 32% of Americans would favor policies consonant with this set of statements: no property rights, high taxes, communal distribution of wealth. Others polled, who knew of the Marxian birth of those statements, expressed opposite sentiments.

      Just goes to show the paltry, pallid, puky nature of education in America.

  4. Is there room for another candidate who will be running as a candidate under a new Party called “The Justice Party.” Rocky Anderson was just introduced by Dylan Rattigan as Mayor Anderson of Salt Lake City, Utah will be running in association with a new Constitution Amendment that has taken root under Dylan Anderson’s plans.

    Check him out folks and let’s put these Republican clowns to bed without their dinner and their blankies.

    It may be necessary to “vet” Anderson out to determine if he actually is who he says he is.

    Take a look and let’s talk about it.

    • Thanks Ms. Price for the heads up…

      I listened to the clips and was impressed with Rocky Anderson’s ‘platform’ for change.

      Other than you mentioning him tonight, I’ve never heard of the guy. So I’m going to take time to research the candidate.

      His ideas are so refreshing and progressive for change; how can you not like what he says.

      The problem with our government is that corruption is so invasive and entrenched that I have a hard time wrapping my mind around as to how we make the necessary, summary changes to turn the USS America about from a terminal encounter with a financial iceberg field.

      We’ve got rats in the bilge, the engine room and on the bridge, even rats for passengers; I.E., lazy-thoughted, shufflebutt Americans that are more interested in “Dancing with the Stars” episodes and other such inane intertainment on their HDTV’s as opposed to the maintenance of their freedom and their way of life provided under our Republic and the Constitution for which it stands.

      Carl Nemo **==

  5. The audience behind that debate showed the Republicans to be rather blood thirsty and seemed to relish the actions of killing Bin Laden rather than having him go through the tribunals of war. I can’t think of another part of history where the Christians demanded the most extreme torture of their “enemies” than during the Inquisitions.

    Is there something in the New Testament that draws this brutality out of the followers of Jesus Christ? I’ve read that part of the bible and found little to justify the attitude that seem prevalent in today’s religious right.

    Gov. Romney was taken aback by his views on felons being able to vote. The perfect answer was that this is a State Decision.

    When these fools get this close to the White House, they lose perception and want to pass judgment on everything. The power of the Presidency is limited by the Bill of Rights.

    • Actually, it’s in the Old Testament. There’s plenty in there to justify putting various and sundry people to death. But if you suggest they’d be better off Jewish, prepare for an Old Testament-style deluge. Consistency in religion isn’t.

      Oh, and it’s not just the Bill of Rights. It’s the entire Constitution, that “goddamn piece of paper”.


      (PS – Shameless plug: The schooner ‘Bill of Rights’ is a lovely ship, and if you’re in Southern California you should go check her out and sign up for a sail or two. She sails out of Channel Islands Harbor, near Oxnard, on an irregular schedule until about March, then daysails almost every weekend all summer. I’m part of the volunteer crew).

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