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Friday, September 30, 2022

Romney roughed up a little in second New Hampshire debate

Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Ron Paul (REUTERS/Jessica Rinaldi)

After back-to-back debates Saturday night and Sunday morning, GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney got his hair mussed but the general consensus among debate watchers and pundits is that the former Massachussets governor was not hurt enough to stop his momentum.

University of Virginia political science professor Larry Sabato:

Romney was dinged in the second debate, but not seriously wounded.  Basically, the candidates firmed up their own individual base but I don’t think they took much away from Romney either in terms of Republicans or independents.

Sabato’s assessment was echoed by a panel of New Hampshire voters assembled by Capitol Hill Blue.  Romney supporters said they didn’t see anything in either debate to swing them away from their candidate while undecideds said they are now leaning in Romney’s direction.

“I wasn’t sure coming into the weekend,” said Melanie Akers.  “Now I’m leaning towards Romney.”

But most of those who support Romney said their choice was driven more by the weakness of the other candidates than by Romney himself.

“It’s a weak field,” said Jonathan Haskins.  “Romney seems the least weak.”

Such lackluster support appears to indicate that voters could be persuaded to change, given the right candidate, but don’t feel the right one has come along.

“What we are dealing with here is a bunch of dogs,” said Lowell Welch.  “I’m doing with Romney. He’s the dog with the least fleas.”

Missing from the panel was any real passion for any of the candidates.  Most expressed disappointment with Rick Santorum, fresh off his surge in Iowa, and support for Ron Paul, the candidate who usually has the most ardent fan base, appeared muted.

“Dr. Paul has some good ideas but he also has a lot of baggage,” said Lucille Moore, a former Paul supporter who now backs Romney.

Most polls show an easy win for Romney and with a new poll showing strength in South Carolina, Romney appears in the best shape of any candidate in the crowded GOP field.  In New Hampshire, the only fight appears to be between Santorum and Paul for who will finish in a distant second place.

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8 thoughts on “Romney roughed up a little in second New Hampshire debate”

  1. But really the worst part about Romney, is that no know really knows what he stands for. His positions change with the breeze.

    Wow, sounds like someone else all of us on CHB know.

    I guess he’s your typical (run of the mill) politician?

    The American people can’t expect to have any representation in government until they end campaign contributions and lobbying.

    Thank you for the figures Woody, they are sobering.

  2. Millions of Americans have no firm convictions for or against the social issues. I’ve mad a general statement that is on my bumper of my car “I am pro choice” on everything. I guess I’m waiting for another candidate who has the same agenda. I apparently trust Americans to make honest choices and so far only the Libertarians are so inclined.

    The problem is not the candidates so much as it is within the RNC and DNC. No Republican can win without the backing of the RNC. This was strengthened by the Bush 43 Administration with his choice of judges all the way to the Supreme Court.

    Having great wealth did not hurt FDR or even JFK. It is only when a Republican is wealthy that it seems to matter.

    On this subject, a brand new book is shipping out today written by Dylan Rattigan and is called “Greedy Bastards” and is an expose’ of the harm great wealth has done to our government. Dylan is a commentator at MSNBC and his honest comments on greedy government employees is terrific and very difficult to assign a political party to his opinions. He was on Rachel Maddow’s show last night and talked about the research he did on the book that was so stressful he gained a ton of weight and went back to smoking. My copy is in the mail and I will read and review it online. I’m now affiliated with several other sites so I can do this all over the ‘net. I’ve gotten into so much trouble at CHB that I will pass on reviewing it here.

  3. Romney is estimated to be worth over $200 million dollars (or something close to that figure).

    Roughed up? Hardly.

    You know what I like most about Mitt Romney is he’s really in touch with the average American. (sarc)

    How do Americans expect to be represented by these people when these same people haven’t and won’t ever rub elbows with these candidates in the grocery store.

    Get real!

    I wonder if all of the American voting public (on television) who are shown smiling, taking pictures and shaking hands with these plutocrats realize how pathetic they look?

    Americans are in need of some perspective and harsh reality checks.

    Yeh, any one of us could run into Mitt at a Ralph’s or Von’s, maybe a Walgreen’s? LOL!

    Yeh, he’s one of us!

    I’m betting his haircut’s cost more than some people make in a week, who will vote for him!

    Roughed up? Mitt Romney has never been roughed up in his silver spooned life.

    • Romney’s net worth is between $190 and $250 million. His biggest campaign contributors are as follows:

      Goldman Sachs $367,200
      Credit Suisse Group $203,750
      Morgan Stanley $199,800
      HIG Capital $186,500
      Barclays $157,750
      Kirkland & Ellis $132,100
      Bank of America $126,500
      PriceWaterhouseCoopers $118,250
      EMC Corp $117,300
      JPMorgan Chase & Co $112,250
      The Villages $97,500
      Vivint Inc $80,750
      Marriott International $79,837
      Sullivan & Cromwell $79,250
      Bain Capital $74,500
      UBS AG $73,750
      Wells Fargo $61,500
      Blackstone Group $59,800
      Citigroup Inc $57,050
      Bain & Co $52,500

      Please note: The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organizations’ PACs, their individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals’ immediate families.

      Romney helped found Bain & Co where he dismantled a number of corporations. I’ve heard he is personally responsible for at least 200,000 people losing their jobs to provide more capital to Bain and his partners.

      If we want to watch the United States be dismantled, Romney has the experience to line his and his supporters pockets while dishing out the pain to the little guys. Sounds like a fascist wet dream.

        • But really the worst part about Romney, is that no know really knows what he stands for. His positions change with the breeze. This is the type of guy that will shake your hand in public while signing your pink slip behind closed doors. Once he’s President, maybe he’ll sign your death warrant or indefinite detention order.

  4. Governor Mitt Romney is a Mormon; not part of the Evangelical Christian movement that is now the GOP. Many of us who were raised in the Mormon faith learned to keep quiet about the family religion. The Republican Party is Evangelical and will shun any religion that is not based on the salvation delivered only by Jesus Christ. We saw this clearly demonstrated by the Candidates who have taken a stand against Romney and Huntsman.

    The Internet has opened up dialog where other religions are heavily contested and even Secular Humanists from the Universities have no interest in any religion being brought into the White House or Congress.

    An enormous number of Americans are returning to right over wrong bypassing all references to an occult superstition being thrown at us from every angle. Sadly, a top-heavy religious government has a tendency to grow corrupt as it is too easy to beg for forgiveness leaving Americans trying to exist under a growing corruption even from State Governments.

    For every decent Gov. Huckabee there always pops up a corrupt Speaker Gingrich. With a dramatic change of agenda, the good and decent candidates are washed away by the loud mouth hypocrites.

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