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Monday, November 28, 2022

Home of the racist, land of the bigot

By DOUG THOMPSON As a Virginian, I am too often embarrassed by the outright bigotry of those my fellow Virginians elect to office. The Old Dominion is, after all, the state that gave us former Republican Sen. George "Macaca" Allen, the man who never met a racial slur he couldn't utter.


As a Virginian, I am too often embarrassed by the outright bigotry of those my fellow Virginians elect to office.

The Old Dominion is, after all, the state that gave us former Republican Sen. George “Macaca” Allen, the man who never met a racial slur he couldn’t utter.

Allen, thankfully, is gone but we still have bigot-in-residence Virgil Goode, the U.S. Congressman who raised a ruckus over a newly-elected Muslim Representative because he planned to take the Oath of Office on the Quran. That Representative, Keith Ellison of Minnesota, got the last laugh by borrowing, from the Library of Congress, a copy of Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson, a Virginian who is a hell of a lot more famous and revered than George Allen or Virgil Goode will ever be.

Unfortunately, Virginia is still overrun by racists, bigots, homophobes and knee-jerk conservatives who want to drag the Commonwealth back into the era when white men ruled everything and blacks and women knew their place.

Virginia is still reluctant to recognize Dr. Martin Luther King’s birthday as a national holiday. Instead, the state clings to Lee-Jackson Day, honoring Confederate heroes Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. That’s why our local courthouse was closed last Friday to honor those who fought to support the right to own slaves while the banks closed Monday to honor the man who gave his life in the name of equality.

And that’s why another elected Virginia racist, Del. Frank D. Hargrove of Hanover County, used Dr. King’s birthday to offend both blacks and Jews.

In an interview with the Charlottesville Daily Progress, Hargrove spoke out against the idea that Virginia should apologize for the days of slavery by saying:

“Are we going to force the Jews to apologize for killing Christ? Nobody living today had anything to do with it. It would be far more appropriate in my view to apologize to the Upper Mattaponi and the Pamunkey Indians for the loss of their lands in eastern Virginia.”

Hargrove added that “black citizens should get over it.”

Richmond Times-Dispatch reporters Pamela Stallsmith and Olympia Meola noted in their story that “this is the most recent insensitive oral misstep made by a Virginia politician. In August, then-U.S. Sen. George Allen referred to a Virginia-born man of Indian descent volunteering for his opponent’s campaign as “macaca,” considered a racial slur in many cultures. Allen ultimately lost the election to Democrat Jim Webb. Last month, U.S. Rep. Virgil H. Goode Jr., R-5th, complained that the first Muslim member of Congress would take his oath with the Quran and warned of a possible Muslim takeover of the chambers.”

Hargrove’s insensitive remarks angered blacks, Jews and a number of Anglo-Saxon whites.

“When somebody tells me that I should just get over slavery, I can only express my emotion by suggesting that I am appalled,” said Richmond Del. Dwight Clinton Jones, chairman of the Legislative Black Caucus.

Hargrove tried to explain his racist slanders by saying “on the other hand, not a soul in this legislature had anything to do with slavery…It is harmful to society in general to keep recycling this thing…”

Del. A. Donald McEachin of Henrico County said on the floor of the House of Delegates Tuesday he is more than willing to apologize for Virginia’s role in slavery.

“I want to apologize. I want to apologize to the mothers and fathers of my ancestors who were transported to this nation against their will in order that this nation might be built upon their backs. I want to apologize to the mothers and fathers of the civil-rights generation who were hosed and bitten by dogs, and their children were killed in churches as they burned,” McEachin said.

A Jewish delegate, David L. Englin of Alexandria, said he was offended not only by Hargrove’s racism but also for “what it means when people of the respect and stature of a member of this body perpetuate the notion that Jews killed Christ.”

Hargrove’s response? “I think your skin is a little too thin.”

Virginia’s state seal contains a Latin phrase: “Sic, Semper, Tyrannis,” which translates to “thus always to tyrants.”

It is a fitting motto that should be applied to George Allen, Virgil Goode, Frank Hargrove and the too many other racists and bigots in our midst.

44 thoughts on “Home of the racist, land of the bigot”

  1. I don’t usually (ever) post but this one deserves a response. I personally have known Mr. Hargrove for over 35 years. I went to school with his sons and I can tell you that there is not a finer man nor family anywhere. It strikes me as odd that most of those who post here – and the author of the article – are so determined to keep anyone from saying what they think. I suppose that one’s constituitional rights don’t matter if you are not a member of some “PC” club. Is this the kind of tolerance that you advocate for the citizens of Virginia? A person has the right to express his opinion , as long as it agrees with you? And please don’t try to say that it is the equivalent of yelling fire in the fire house. The only fire here that needs to be put out is the useless and meaningless gestures that our PAID lawmakers waste their time and our tax dollars on. Frank Hargrove is one of the kindest, no nonsense people that you are ever going to meet. To slander his name when you do not know him – and then to generalise your perception of bigotry to an entire Commonwealth – is at the very core of racism. Do you also generalise about an entire race? Do you also speak ill of people that you know only through one sound bite? You should be ashamed of yourselves. If you do not like him, don’t vote for him next time.

  2. I suspect I would dislike Mr. Hargrove if I ever met him socially, and his choice of words leaves much to be desired, but he’s got hold of part of the truth. It’s a very good question to ask, why, when no one still living had anything to do with these past events, should an individual feel responsible or harbor a grudge? Lenny Bruce had a line on “Who killed Christ?” Bruce said Jews should pretend to find a confession note, and get the whole thing out of the way. “I was down in the basement the other day and I find this old paper, it says “We killed Him, and we’re really sorry, signed Morty.”” The real point being, why are we still fighting each other over this? My father and his parents ran out of Germany a hop ahead of the SS in 1939. I don’t feel that Germany owes me a thing. They owed my grandparents, and they owed my father, but that’s not my tragedy. It was theirs. Those who obsess over harm done to their ancestors are those who need more to do.

  3. As a fellow Virginian (now living in Delaware, but still holding the family farm in Northampton County), so much a Virginian that there is a Virginia County named after one of my ancestors, I share the shame.

    Well I remember “Massive Rsistance.”

    It is sad beyond words that the state that idolizes the Founders cannot understand what “liberty and justice for all” means.

  4. He’s right! I mean really now, slavery ended over a century ago, and there is nobody alive today who had any part of it, so why should people still be apologizing? It’s the special treatment that is causing so much racial seperation. Being politically correct is like saying “You’re different, and I know that, so I can’t say this, this, or that because you’re standing next to me”. I think these people who are all upset about the slavery remark should put their energy towards something relevant, like getting poor blacks out of the projects, or trying to end this hip hop phenomena which is only bringing them miles back and causing even more of a seperation. Being overly sensitive does not help anyones cause, and to waste time looking for apologies is ridiculous. Why not go to Africa and ask for an apology there, from the people who sold you to the white men.

  5. This rant is really about Virginians or others who do not respect the new official religion of the all powerfull state and who commit its unforgiveable sin — intolerance —real or imagined. No one is more racist than a race hustling politician from either party. No citizen has the power to enforce racial priviledge as our corrupt government does.
    We do not have a race problem—we have a government problem. Washington is a malignant tumor which will only stop growing when the patient is dead.

  6. Doug-I believe the scriptures state something like ‘pointing out the splinter in your brothers eye but ignoring the log in your own’-
    lot of folks “talk-the-talk” but can’t walk-the-walk”
    Virginia is the mother-state of 7 Presidents-the home of the Lee’s and Stonewall Jackson. If you would simply read the wretched racist & white supremacist remarks of “Honest Abe” you would never be caught with a 5 dollar bill in you pocket. Yet in Roanoke you can visit a church(5th Ave. Presbyterian) that has had a predominately Black congregation for over 130 years. Behind the pulpit is a beautiful stained glass window dedicated to “Stonewall Jackson” almost 100 years ago-why?
    As Paul Harvey says, “that is the rest of the story”-Iwould suggest a GOOGLE search and find out the ‘why’


  7. We must return to being Americans first and showing a strong respect for our equalities. What difference does it make what color we are or which God we worship. We have the U.S. Constitution clearly giving us our freedoms through the Bill of Rights and we are being talked out of them by our current Administration.

    Can the Democrats stand up to this threat? They did not in the past. In the last two elections they ran two of the weakest candidates I ever encountered. They have a chance to stand up against Bush’s bad decisions and yet the south would rather fight the civil war all over again.

    We cannot legislate against racism and homophobia but we can unseat those people who believe themselves to be superior. What is it about EQUAL that they do not understand?

    Welcome to the blog Martha; glad to see you here.

  8. I was born and raised in Augusta County, grew up in a small bigoted town with small, bigoted people. I have to use an aka to post in my local paper. My left wing, liberal thoughts have the townspeople beating on my mother’s door telling her what a disgrace I am as her daughter! By the way, my mother is a liberal!
    These small southern towns will never change!

  9. If we must be so polically correct then we should appologize for the indian wars, indians appologize to other indians, germans appologize to jews, so on and so forth. By continuing to bring this up we don’t heal we perpetuate the feeling of being cheated on some way. In many respects blacks are more than equal with quotas everywhere you look from college admisions to hiring and promoting. All these things do is promote a further separation of the races. We all need to listen to Bill Cosby and fix our own house, that goes for all of us.

  10. GZR:
    1, Why don’t you tell everyone YOUR name instead of meaningless initials, you coward;
    2. who the hell are you to make assumptions based on my last name as to what I am, believe, or what I should do;
    3. you are precisely who I was talking about.

  11. Jason,

    There is no anti-semitism, racism or viciousness above. What is there is people who have made statements that they aren’t going to buy into anymore of the guilt ladening ideas that the liberals throw at us.

    Mr. Shapiro, you’re Jewish, so if you think it is wrong to keep Muslim Immigration very limited in America like Mr. Goode advocates, then why don’t you advocate that Israel open up their borders to mass immigration from Muslim countries. This is a great idea for then Israelis could not be blamed for being racist, vicious or anti-semitic.


  12. The North wasn’t so great either. I don’t think the North really cared about slavery as a moral issue as much as they cared about the fact that it allowed the South to undercut their labor costs and have an economic advantage. There were slaves in Maryland, a norhtern State. Remember Uncle Tom’s Cabin? The real one is in Maryland. If the North was so interested in the slaves then why was there discrimination in both the North and the South after the Civil War?

    Martin Luther King didn’t say “I have a dream for the South because we are treated like men in the North”.

    The truth is that discrimination of all ethic groups and women existed all across the nation. The authors of the Bill of Rights meant those to be for some men. It was a selective granting of rights. Luckily people in the unselected groups decided that applied to them as well.

    As far as Virginia is concerned, yes, they need to get with the 21st century and stop trying to live in the past. That goes for various other segments of society too.

  13. Doug, one reason that posts like this are so informative has less to do with your observations (with which I generally agree)than the unfiltered comments of your readers. Ignorance is usually pathetic rather than scary, but the underlying viciousness, racism, and anti-semitism that so many respondents felt free to express is indeed chilling.

  14. “That’s why our local courthouse was closed last Friday to honor those who fought to support the right to own slaves”

    Asinine. See James Webb below.

    “Even the venerable Robert E. Lee has taken some vicious hits, as dishonest or misinformed advocates among political interest groups and in academia attempt to twist yesterday’s America into a fantasy that might better serve the political issues of today. The greatest disservice on this count has been the attempt by these revisionist politicians and academics to defame the entire Confederate Army in a move that can only be termed the Nazification of the Confederacy. Often cloaked in the argument over the public display of the Confederate battle flag, the syllogism goes something like this: Slavery was evil. The soldiers of the Confederacy fought for a system that wished to preserve it. Therefore they were evil as well, and any attempt to honor their service is a veiled effort to glorify the cause of slavery. This blatant use of the race card in order to inflame their political and academic constituencies is a tired, seemingly endless game that is itself perhaps the greatest legacy of the Civil War’s aftermath. But in this case it dishonors hundreds of thousands of men who can defend themselves only through the voices of their descendants.” James Webb – Capt USMC (ret) Vietnam Combat Veteran, Secretary of the Navy for Reagan during the 1980s.

  15. Who really gives a %$&*? The past is the past and nothing can change it. We all just need to get on with our lives treating each other with respect assuming we deserve it.

  16. Steve,

    Let’s look at the Netherlands. They brought in Islamic Arab immigrants into their country after WWII. The Dutch thought that these folks would adopt the Dutch culture of prostitution, transsexuality and homosexuality, but that has not happened. They are rejecting the Dutch culture of tolerance. No the Arabs are a different breed. The same rejection of American mores is going to happen here if we bring them here in these mass quantities.


  17. Phil:

    The comments section exists so people can comment on stories. It is not for the reposting of articles from other web sites. If you want to use the article to bolster your opinion, then link to it. Do not post the entire article.

    And Baldwin’s article, like the column here and all responses are opinions, nothing more, nothing less. What you may consider the “truth” is not necessarily an opinion shared by others. I suggest you remember that.


  18. Doug:
    Chuck Baldwin’s article is indeed copywrited but is postable if the web address and Chuck’s name is in the post as they were.

    Chuck Baldwin’s commentaries are copyrighted and may be republished, reposted, or emailed providing the person or organization doing so does not
    charge for subscriptions or advertising and that the column is copied intact and that full credit is given and that Chuck’s web site address is included. Ted Samply’s post about Lee and Jackson is making it’s rounds via email and is not to my knowledge copywrited. Feel free to at least repost Baldwin’s unless the truth offends you.

  19. Steve,

    You’re going to be the one gaining enlightenment when the Muslims put you under Dhimmitude, but maybe with someone like you you’ll probably enjoy that and think its a blessing.


  20. As I read this, I was reminded of a line used by a comedian – Ron White – I suppose I can apply it to the Virginian politicians – but I’d rather apply it in a more universal sense – to all the narrow minded people who cannot see that we are all equal – that we are all one human community and that we all deserve the respect of one another – so here goes …

    “you can’t fix stupid”



  21. I would suggest that Carol Smith, if she wishes her views to be considered by others, take steps toward literacy. I’m still looking for the TRIP which upset her so badly.

  22. Phil:

    Your last two posts have been removed because they are a violation of copyright law. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT, infringe on another web site’s copyright by posting the full text of an article as a comment. If you wish to use someone else’s writings to make a point, use no more than a paragraph and then provide a link to it.


  23. I was reading a story this morning about a little girl in the inner city who was shot by mexican gang members. The little girl had written a poem a few weeks earlier one of the lines was as follows. “I am black and beautiful.” I submit that if white children were writing poetry about their whiteness their would be a massive public outcry from minority groups to education groups condemming the racist comments by white students. I feel sorry for blacks who are so caught up in their skin color that they have to include it in their poetry in order to feel good about their race. That makes them the racist not me. I guess if these people are right we should have a national holiday for white people to celebrate that they arent black.

  24. Dear Doug,
    Who was it that said the “Civil War” and/or the “War of the Rebellion” has been over 150 years?

    Keep up the good work.

  25. Not only should blacks quite whining they should get down on their knees and thank god their ancestors were brought here. I dont see many blacks moving back to africa or jamaica so it must have worked out in their favor otherwise they can always go back to their ancestors native homeland. Thank you Rep. Hargrove for stating the obvious truth about many blacks mostly inner city blacks living in Democrat controled cities in America.

  26. I’m new to this discrimination and living for 3 generations in California we never gave a damn what color or race anyone was. I learned it from Free Republic when I went on line in 1993; and not even my many travels around the globe had I met such a load of homophobes, racists and bigots. It was and is headquartered in California and I was so shocked I even drove to one of their conventions to see for myself. What a shameful example of American values.

    If you want to really to witness discrimination go ask an Atheist what it is like when they dare to come out of the closet. They sure came after me and even Bush 41 suggested we not be allowed to be full citizens.

    Americans are not educated around equality issues and it is getting worse, not better. I have great hopes that the new Senator from Virginia (Jim Webb) who will do the response to Bush’s speech on Tuesday will make it better for the good Virginians who respect the Constitution and get over the rumors from the religious right about who killed Jesus. Hey, I don’t believe Jesus was God so send me after these rotters.

    I do not have the patience to live in Virginia and can barely handle the discrimination against Indians here in Arizona. We gave them gambling rights and they are richer than Midas. I love it!

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