Expansive government and a general assault on liberty long predates the current administration and even its most recent predecessors.

Had Hillary Clinton's 1993 health-care plan survived, it would have been the most recent usurpation. Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" of government-directed nostrums was the most recent successful major eruption. Predating that would be the major political "Cambrian Explosion" of FDR and the New Deal. Some consider the Civil War to be the first major and most enduring rape of the concept of limited government.

The Bushes and Clinton are relative pikers compared to these other usurpers.

Most sincerely,

T. J. Flapsaddle

I keep wondering why Bush went into Iraq.

George W went into Iraq as a personal vendetta against Saddam Hussein that he made in 1993 after allegedly Hussein hired assassins to kill his family in Kuwaitt.

BTW, it has been in fact disproven that Hussein did this, but you have to understand GW (which most people don't) to truly understand the limits that man will go....or maybe now people are getting a clue.

The oil money is all payback to Dick and Friends for getting him elected TWICE!

That is the message behind the now infamous "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" sign on the aircraft carrier. That was the message behing televised airing of Hussein's statue coming down. That is why there was no post war planning.

You don't think it was just a coincidence that he just up and decided to run for Governor 3 months later in June 1993...at least that's when the financial exploratory committee (wink, wink) was announced.

He could not be POTUS without any govt experience of ANY KIND!

Gov Anne Richards (RIP)was the perfect candidate to run against as her past with drugs and alcohol was well known. His also infamous past could not be used against him with Richards as an adversary.

And you don't think it was a coincidence that Jeb became Gov of Florida not too long after that, do you? Do you REALLY think this was all a coincidence?

And lastly do you really think the Bush's, Karl Rove and those folks were actively out there campaigning for Dole in 1996? Hell, the MSM talking heads were already talking about GW being the 2000 nominee during the 1996 GOP convention.

If anyone out there still believes this was just a coincidence, I've got some property, I would like to talk to you about buying (very big grin).

The difference is that many of us who were at that Convention in San Diego in 1996 got a copy of the platform and left. I sat through Dole's weak comments and realized that all actions from a win in 1996 would bring about the end of R v W. This plan to go into the Middle East came from Bush 41 in 1992 and was a call for all Christians to finally make a nation-empire for Christians only. This was the plan for all America.

Does this appeal to most Americans? Am I the one who is so out of step to want my nation to be for all Americans or should I have to register first as a Christian and a Republican after that. I was told in Phoenix that I had to be a Christian to be a Republican. This is dangerous stuff folks. It will stop evolution in its tracks because our survival comes from our brains not from our Gods.

Pollchecker the plan for the one world order Empire is clearly described in the Bush Platform of 1992. Perot got a hold of it and blasted it all over the world. It was just before I went on line and when I did I met up with tons of Republicans who were terrified of this world governance of Bush. There was almost a relief that Clinton won. The whole Republican base wanted no global governance and certainly no talks about the one world order. I went on line to research this horrible plan for American to go into the Middle East and force a Democracy. That came under the Bush 41 plan.

I remember that Reagan hated his VP but did not have the strength to dump him. Bush 41 was everything Reagan despised and I know of no one who was in the Reagan camp who voted for Bush. We all signed on for Perot. My area of California carried Perot as we worked the areas between Monterey and Santa Barbara. Our main problem was NAFTA and any Congressman or Senator running in the election lost if they voted for NAFTA.

Bush 41 wrote up the NAFTA agreement but lost his reelection and Clinton simply pushed it in his Congress. We had a pretty good balance during Clinton's terms and we were able to keep the costs down and the wars controlled. But in 2000 the fit hit the shan.

Carl Rove took over "W's" campaign and the dirty tricks on McCain hit way below the belt. Without the Bush group buying the Christian Votes with his federal grants to the churches, that horrible man would still be in Texas. Even before the election the GOP came up with the Prohibitions that would be promised to Falwell and Robertson if they would supply the votes.

I remember writing a magazine article about the new President Bush and a warning about his efforts to charge into the Middle East just as his father had planned to do. Of course he could not, until 9/11. We will eventually know the truth about this horrible man and what he did to New York and the Middle East. I hope you remember these facts as I won't live long enough to see the truth.

Everything I have warned other about has come true. What saddens me are my old Republican friends who fell into the Bush war and have no clue why we invaded Iraq. It was apparently another religious war for Christian America.

woody. Reagan has no plans for world domination. What did you mean?

Wonderful summation, Sandra.

My favorite headline of all time is from the London Daily Mirror after Bush had been re-selected for the second time.

How Can 59,054,087 People Be So Dumb?
http://www.politico.ws/photos/English%20Magazine%2...

Americans are an invented people .. easily frightened, easily manipulated. Karl Rove is far from any real sense of genius, he simply knew that Americans are easy.

Every single thing that was said about Bush/Rove/Cheney and the mindless attack on Iraq has come to be known as fact. Iraq was never a threat and the fraudulent rationale the Bushistas gave for invading Iraq should have been seen for what it was by 8th graders.

"Mushroom clouds in 45 minutes" .. from a regime that had been under sanctions for a dozen years was so incredibly transparent and downright stupid that only the lobotomized mind could have possibly believed that crap.

No need to look too deep for vilians and blame because it lies in the lap of the American people. How could we have possibly been that dumb?

Today the Republican Party is shrinking by the minute and those who supported this maniac regime are scratching their heads in bewilderment.

There is no mystery why this nation is in the crisis we face today. No mystery whatsoever.

That's right black. However on many newspapers and television news channels, it is the American people who are in the wrong and our government must continue in this move to make the middle east into a democracy must be allowed to continue.

Our only hope it to stay in the Democratic Party in the white house and the congress. The next justice must not be selected by anyone of McCain's ilk.

In my world, the GOP blew it in 1992 when the agenda moved into the New World Order which lost Bush 41 his election. Seeing him lose was the first successful election I was ever involved in. I went for Perot with a lot of energy. He was completely against the Nafta crap and felt we could trade with other nations without giving away the store. Our trade deficit is shocking and we lose money with every deal. It get worse every damn year.

"America needs to get its own house in order and forgo visions of dominating the world or turning it into our Hollywood version of democracy."

I couldn't agree more with this statement. America needs its independence and stop poking other nations in the eye. We need oil, so we design a great myth and simply go in and take it. War!! naturally!

You should read my emails about how the whole planet is counting on our actions in the Middle East. How many did they send to help us? No, Bush 41 and 43 wanted a war and they came up with the most silly reasons about the world hating us for our freedoms. These two men did more to remove the freedoms than anyone else in my lifetime.

Damnit Black, Americans are going to have to wake up to what is happening in our government. We can only hope that most of those who read here can learn that the current Administration is simply wrong! Any change would be better than what we have at this time. I thought for a minute you might not want this change. I was wrong!

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I think GWB makes perfect sense in the context of his twisted, degenerate religious belief system, which goes about like this: The Arabs and Muslims are evil, since they are not Christian. The Jews, although they are corrupt and unenlightened, must be given EVERYTHING they want, since they were God's Chosen People, up until Christ came along. And even though many if not most Jews will not make the cut when Christ returns, HE will not do so until Israel is calling all the shots. That is to say, Christians will not be sucked through the roofs of their cars on their way to Heaven, during the "rapture", when Christ returns and "rescues" them from the consequences of their own depravity.

There's really nothing Bush has or hasn't done that doesn't make perfect sense, within the context of his twisted little Christian world.

Non-Voters: It's All In God's Hands

Here you go, Sandra.

People who believe that God is involved in worldly affairs are less likely to participate in national elections than others, according to a new survey.

The study, which included nearly 1,700 U.S. men and women with an average age of 53, suggests that a person's view of God is a variable that determines whether he or she will donate money to a campaign, read political news, or even vote.

"It can be reasoned that if one believes God determines worldly affairs, then there is little reason for individuals to participate in civic events," study leader Robyn Driskell and her colleagues write in the June issue of the journal Social Science Quarterly. "God is taking care of things."

See it's not Christians that are bad, it's those "Crazy Neo-cons and Right-to-Lifers that enable this garbage.