While I can't say that I'm familiar with the author's other work, I didn't detect an overtly racist tone with that post. Of course, a "racist tone" can be somewhat subjective, and perhaps other posters should be afforded the opportunity to challenge the author on that and other points made in the post.

I didn't say I was removed from here, either. I was told I should state my case elsewhere. I guess when someone consistently loses arguments the only recourse is to cry foul! and use partisanship to cover for a lack of brainpower. That's probably why most of the intelligent people have left this site for more substantial and freer debate elsewhere.

So you tell me, who's out of line here?

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/8024

I'll use your own quote to respond to this...

"BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH,BLAH"

-pollchecker, 2008

Be my guest.

We were talking about my blog, not this site. Grif and I agree on a lot of things. I believe I said this in this very thread.

I believe I also suggested in the article you are referring to, that he start his own thread/blog stating his opinions instead of arguing with me and trying to distort my words which he is very good at.

You can take any quote you want out of context. It happens all the time in politics. It seems to be the political equivalent to society's use of "Whatever".

I also said that he did get to me but I will stand by the overall post which is exactly why I said I hope people read the entire thread.

Grif has some great opinions. We share some of the same concerns that I do about a number of issues. I often enjoy reading his thoughts.

But sometimes he also behaves in the same manner that many Republicans behave...condescending may be a very good word for it. Perhaps it is in typical GOP style to treat women as idiots which is why I doubt that many women Clinton supporters would ever vote for McCain... but that's another blog.

I came here when Doug called for a season of civility and I believe that the overall tone and treatment of members has been just that. I volunteered to modereate this to take some word off the publisher.

I don't censor people, I might clean up language. I delete posts that are blatant violation of the rules. I am probably not strict enough for the publisher. But I don't censor people's thoughts even if I violently disagree with them unless they fall within the parameters that I believe Doug has spelled out very clearly.

I don't go into other people's blogs and DELIBERATELY provoke an argument which is what I believe Grif did that particular day/blog. I will stand up for and defend what I believe no matter who it is and how condescending they behave.

I think he said it best when he said that its his playground, so he makes the rules. If you don't like his rules you are free to go elsewhere. Obviously this disagreement has not violated that rules or by now it would have been deleted by now.

I believe in the Golden Rule...do unto others as you would have others do unto you. If you are going to bring trouble here, expect trouble back....that's just the law of Karma.

Otherwise you do your thing and I'll do mine. I believe that's the American way.

That's it. I've said everything there is to say on this subject and I am not going to waste anymore time on something that I believe is just more of the same negativity and cynicism we quite often hear around here.

Since it's Grif's blog, I owe him the last word. But I've got $10 it will be cynical or condescending or just plain mean. That's the only way Republicans can win arguments these days.

Thanks for the kind words, but I have chosen other venues where I can make better use of my time. Like I said in the blog, I felt compelled to ask why a blog opposing Obama was so quickly removed, and I have received my answer.

Besides, it appears the Global Warming hysteria is in full swing now, and I really must avoid that can of worms altogether, much to my dismay. Another media-driven propaganda campaign where dissent is intolerable and coincidentally makes up vast portions of Obama's platform. CHB will always be a part of my travels, but my days of spending alot of time here are over. I may post a comment here and there, but that's all the stomach I have for this site as a venue for adult discussion.

I have enjoyed reading your posts as well and will continue to do so. You're one of the few left here with the ability to objectively comment on the hypocrisy and delusions of our political establishment and their minions. Be well, neighbor.

While we may have a difference of opinion on the tone of the aforementioned article, I have no problem with your reasoning for its removal. I just happen to think that we have become so oversensitive to racism these days that mere commentary on the reality of it is considered racist.

As with government in general, attempting to legislate morality never works; and while healthy debate and confronting it head-on may not serve to change the feelings of the author, it may just help to enlighten others. And frankly, I don't see how you've proven me wrong, you've just asserted your right as publisher to remove content you deemed inappropriate. Perhaps I'm viewed as argumentative, but isn't that what debate is all about?

Over the many months I've spent here, I've tried to be respectful of others' opinions while in disagreement. Early on perhaps I had failed at times, as I'm only human and am susceptible to human emotion. I am not slinking away or giving up the fight, I just choose to do it elsewhere. There is just too much animosity and duplicity here these days and I'm really just tired of it. It's a useless endeavor when you can't post a single comment without being called names. That isn't debate, it's Hannity and Colmes, and the link I provided is just one example. It's just a waste of valuable time - time that can be spent among reasonable people interested in discussing solutions to serious problems, not blind allegiance to a failed two party cluster fuck.

And again, I've never implied, to my knowledge, that I've been thrown out of here. But I have been told to "go home sissy" and that I "sleep with snakes" and that it would be best that I state my case elsewhere. Now in my opinion, that tells me that my opinions are not welcome. Maybe not by you, but by others that spend considerable time here. Furthermore, I cut back on my activity here long before yesterday, I was merely stating my reasons.

We are being raped, manipulated and brainwashed every second of every minute of every hour of every day and there is no end in sight. They tell us straight out in their books and their literature and their blogs and their websites, yet most people don't want to know this.

They laugh at us while they steal our futures, and the future of our children. And we're content to be distracted. We hang on their every word yet fail to truly understand what they say. We ask them to solve all of our ills but never question the cost. We feed the insatiable beast and disgrace the memories of those who vanquished tyranny, only to replace it with a new and more efficient brand. We have become creatures of convenience, social engineering success stories.

“If you can get people to assent to the state of affairs in which they are living, the state of servitude,… it seems to me that the nature of the ultimate revolution with which we are now faced is precisely this—that we are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy, who have always existed and presumably always will exist, to get people actually to love their servitude. People can be made to enjoy a state of affairs which by any decent standard they ought not to enjoy. And these methods, I think, are a real refinement on the older methods of terror, because they combine methods of terror with methods of acceptance. Among the various other methods which one can think of, there is, for example, the pharmacological method,… and the result would be that you can imagine a euphoric which would make people thoroughly happy even in the most abominable circumstances. I mean these things are possible!”

-Aldous Huxley, in a speech delivered at U.C. Berkley, March 20, 1962