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June 17, 2008 - 12:16am.
i.e., The war over the war against terror. Most of us have chosen side; we dream of a hypothetical situation where a nuke is ticking to go off and a hardened al Qada suspect has the code to stop it memorized in his head, or we dream of a hypothetical situation where if you mention civil liberties to our grandchildren, they won’t know what you are talking about. When Moussaoui was being tried as the alleged mastermind of 9/11, he didn’t seem like a man subjected to at least the borderline next to torture, he also as an insider knew water-boarding wouldn't lead to death and was no big deal if you didn't let it bother you. Anytime death was a possibility God was on his mind not panic, while bin Laden’s chauffeur, who should have been detained as a material witness rather than a terrorist, would have experienced pure terror. One so-called dangerous al Qaeda suspect was going around trying to find al Qaeda to suggest that shopping malls would be nifty targets, probably had anything but pleasure on his mind when he was being grilled. So the US may engage in equal procedures in how it interrogate suspects, but the terror being imposed is far from equal. A innocent terror suspect at Abu Ghraib prison who thought he was having menstrual blood smeared on him could have felt he was no longer a respectable human being, while perhaps Moussaoui was proudly experiences pure pleasure while being subjected to much worse humiliation. At this point I’m not going to suggest possible solutions filled with a lot of ands, buts and maybes, most of which I might retract upon further thought. For the question of fair trials, if a group such as al Qaeda ever decided that jurors would fair targets to be hunted down and made an example of, will fair trials ever be possible even if Jimmy Carter is elected to a second term? President Bush claims their goal, and I guess he means bin Laden’s, is to end our democratic freedoms. I’m sure this is far from al Qaeda’s main goal. But, if that was the actual goal of a future group, would civil liberties from that point forward be possible to maintain? In Pakistan a public school, where some of the children were children of contractors working for Americans was s considered fair game for terrorists, according to a now desperate Pakistani blogger named Muhammad Khurshid, http://www.opednews.com/author/author1343.html The question we never ask, in politics or foreign policy. is what kinds of future for human kind is possible? To me, it is obvious that McCain’s dream of restoring the US as an assertive proud player on the world scene is not the solution, but does that necessarily mean that any of us knows what the solution is? References: http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_richardk_0... http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did... RichardKanePA
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Submitted by Sandra Price on June 17, 2008 - 5:13am.Choices and solutions
Richard, it is obvious that the majority of Americans are not interested in our loss of freedoms and liberties as they have been told to sacrifice for the welfare of all others. With terrorism in all parts of our lives, we simply can no longer trust even the American citizens. We will be given National Identifications with chips telling anyone who asks our backgrounds of education, medical records, criminal records and we had better shape up or we could end up in places like Gitmo with a label of enemy terrorist.
The last couple of generations have no knowledge of our Constitution that is the ultimate promise of freedoms. Many that I correspond with do not even know we have State Constitutions written by the residents of the state that have the authority to choose the moral laws for that state. This ability is guaranteed by the 10th Amendment of our U.S. Constitution; but few even know that.
The dumbing down of America has shown an enormous success. The people elected to run our Federal and State Governments were elected on their ability to speak, with their looks right out of Hollywood casting and they often have kept their personal lives and agendas well hidden.
When I went on-line I had great hopes of using the internet to educate myself and others for a freer America but it came too late. The schools had done their job and the churches removed the incentives and brought people to their knees in prayer.
In 2009 we will be either a police state giving the Supreme Court the right to direct our choices or we will see a well planned redistribution of wealth after being told that wealth is a sin. We will see the rest of our corporations moving to other countries and our government will be the source of our income being paid for by our taxes.
I’m actually glad I am at the end of my place on this planet as I have lost my temper and much of my sleep trying to get the American people to stop pandering to the government to solve all their problems. We fall into looking for candidates who take all the responsibility of our lives and solve them en masse. We are worse than drug addicted, we have only a television to guide us.
RichardKanePA, If someone
Submitted by RichardKanePA on June 17, 2008 - 10:56am.RichardKanePA,
If someone like Maoussaoi, managed to talk his interrogatories into killing him, he’d feel double pleasure, the pleasure of believing he was going to heaven and the pleasure of knowing he talked his interrogators into violating their principles.
Bin Laden clearly doesn’t like it that some Muslims thought Western clothing is stylish, and longed for western democratic rights. Most religions play around with the idea that the entire world will agree with them some day. So bin Laden wouldn’t mind everyone agreeing with his interpretation of the truth some day, but a for see able goal is a planet where people want to run away from the US and Europe rather than escape to it.
When then Republican Majority Leader Bill Frist was put in charge of examining additional abu Ghraib photos that were given to Congress for private viewing, he was going to call for bipartisan prison reform, but was cut off the air by a news bulletin, about Nick Berg being beheaded. I was before the start of the Iraq war watching the largest peace demonstration in England, but a news bulletin cut it off the air, on terror bombs in Turkey.
When bin Laden on the Internet demanded that Iraqis not vote I noticed that the peace movement’s then claim that the war in Iraq had nothing to do with fighting terror, suddenly seemed to make less sense.
North Vietnam put the brakes on US imperialism, but al Qaeda is messing with the accelerator giving us the rope for a crash landing.
A top al Qaeda suspect escaped from a US guarded prison in Afghanistan, Yes I am specious that Chaney staged a terror drill to occur during a real attack, but I am also suspicious that al Qaeda knew of the terror drill and thus chose that moment to attack.
I agree with the peace movement on how to deal with al Qaeda, but believe along with some hawks that al Qaeda is a real danger.
Emotionally, I feel like going out of my mind to suggest that possibly evil is more powerful than goodness. If both McCain and al Qaeda end up the top decision makers on this planet it will be hard to find a sane explication as to the reasons why.
Note the links in my above blog post
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