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January 18, 2008 - 8:04am.

Canada has dared admit what other U.S. allies will not: America is a terrorist state that tortures prisoners and violates international law.

A Canadian Foreign Affairs Department training manual, Torture Awareness Workshop Reference Materials, defines torture and lists Guantanamo Bay and the United States, along with Afghanistan, China, Egypt, Iran, Israel, Mexico, Saudi Arabia and Syria as nations which torture prisoners and abuse human rights.

This is not an enemy of the United States making wild claims about “the Great Satan” of America. It’s not even our sometimes ally France. This is Canada, one of this county’s strongest allies.

While Canada didn't come out and say flatly that America is a "terrorist state," the manual clearly identifies this nation as one that uses terror techniques in direct violation of international law. In our book, that makes us the United Terrorist States of America.

When America can’t even pass muster with its friends, America is in trouble. Our emergence as an international bully with no regard for law or human decency is now complete and even our allies can’t look the other way.

The destruction of America by George W. Bush and his followers is almost complete. He still has a year left in office to finish the job.

Just when you think the rampant arrogance that has dragged our country into the mire and muck of criminal activity and corruption can’t possibly get any worse…it does.

Missing White House emails, destroyed CIA tapes that show torture of prisoners, violation of wiretap laws and nonstop abuse of human and civil rights highlight a government out of control and a nation unable to stop the decline.

The Bush Administration is lying about troop withdrawals from Iraq, lying about clashes with Iran and lying about its continued criminal actions both at home and on the international stage.

Later today, Bush will unveil a so-called “economic stimulus package” that economists already say is too little too late. As he did with Katrina, Bush is routinely ignoring a problem until it out of control. The man who exports terrorism to other nations and launches invasions based on lies doesn’t have time to deal with issues closer to home.

And he doesn’t have time to earn or keep the respect of once-staunch allies of this nation.

Canada has, in effect, called America what it has become: a terrorist nation.

Sadly, their assessment is true: And the most dangerous terrorist of all lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

As an American, it scares the hell out of me that this terrorist has another year to complete his mission of destroying America.

And it may be too late to stop him.

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Thank you smirky and dich

Thank you smirky and dich for dragging us further into the cesspit wherein you and your minions dwell.You have accomplished your mission.I'm sure our new barbaric third world status pleases you.Here is your legacy and I hope you choke on it!

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I'm sure kkkarl rove is

I'm sure kkkarl rove is working on a freedom toast slogan that will befit the Canadians reaction to his heroes evil doings, all the while counting on the twisted support of faux news to trumpet the cause.Talk about diplomatic isolation,we are now officially an island.

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Doug, once again, you've

Doug, once again, you've nailed it.

One definition of terrorism, calls it "violence, the threat of violence, or other harmful acts committed for political or ideological goals." Similar definitions also include such phrases as "words or acts deliberately targeted at calling into question the physical safety of non-combatants" (otherwise known as "civilians").

By these definitions, and by all their continued yammering about the pressing need for heightened "homeland security" and by constantly beating the fear mantra of how many (and what type) of terrorist acts they have supposedly thwarted, it would seem to me that such acts now being perpetrated by Mr. Bush and his Cabal fit that definition.

This also goes for the likes of Mr. Fred Thompson and others in the current Presidential campaign who, in the case of the former, have recently run television ads designed SPECIFICALLY to foment such fear among their respective constituencies in the hope those people will be afraid enough to vote for them. Are these not "acts committed for political or ideological goals" as well?

It is a fact that many more people have died from simply falling out of bed in the United States than have died in terrorist attacks. Yet, Mr. Bush and his Cabal have now killed thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of his own citizens as well as other "non-combatants" in his trumped-up, blatantly illegal "war on terror" in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sadly, under the totally imperialistic rule of our current "Prevaricator-In-Chief", our once proud United States of America has now become a nation that promotes everything that it is not, while at the same time condemning everything that it is.

Or, as Mr. Bush, himself, once said, "Evil men, obsessed with ambition and unburdened by conscience, must be taken very seriously--and we must stop them before their crimes can multiply."

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I warned about Bush prior to

I warned about Bush prior to his election. But not even I could guess that he would act in the same vein as other dictators.

What is worse is the number of Americans who still believe in him and will somehow overlook the broken laws and the corruption. I remember when Nixon broke the rules and lied to the American people. I felt as if I had been beaten up by some unseen menace.

I do feel that I tried to point out the weaknesses in Bush and the damaging influence of the religious right who were born and raised to destroy Islam and Israel. The end of days must be for Christians only.

Bush has done everything in his power to destroy our nation, our economy, wasted our armed services and put us into a debt we may never get out of.

Yes, Chief, he has another year to finish us off, borrow more money from our enemies, allow another highschool class to graduate with an inferior education and prepare them all to go into Iran. He has made Americans into slaves to the government and if he could run for relection he would be back in the White House.

We are not working hard enough to expose the menace that is in the white house. We will simply elect another menace?

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Well, if the shoe fits. But

Well, if the shoe fits.

But let's not forget that Americans are sharply divided on both the use of torture and the denial of due process to anyone the government claims might be a "terrorist." The scenario we're handed over and over again is "the ticking time bomb" and how if torture can save lives, then that's different.

I'm no fan of this administration, but it's not fair to lay the blame for what America has become at their feet. Once again, the government merely reflects the people. Just like most Americans thought invading Iraq was a good idea (until they got in over their heads with it), the sad fact is that there are still a great many Americans who believe that torturing terrorism suspects is a good idea too.

The American culture needs to fix itself before it can expect better out of its government. We can't complain about corrupt politicians and wrongheaded ideas if our society is rife with corruption and wrongheadedness itself.

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Before the 2000 election I

Before the 2000 election I was screaming to not vote for him. He(Bush)telegraphed what he would do. I screamed in 2004 and a step-daughter decided not to speak to me because I wasn't supporting the troops. I have been screaming since 2002 to impeach and no one listens. My voice is almost gone. Will not someone rid us of this abomination?

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The Constitution will get

The Constitution will get rid of him in less than a year.

(... unless he gets rid of the Constitution first.)

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If anyone in the House had

If anyone in the House had stones he'd have been gone by now with his evil henchman Cheney leading the way.

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Even worse, this designation

Even worse, this designation occurred during the tenure of the most pro American, pro Republican, Canadian government in decades. Prime Minister Harper is one of Bush’s staunchest supporters. It appears even he can’t close his eyes to how low America has fallen.

Please listen. This is your conscience from the frozen north speaking. Which reminds me of an old canard. “Canada is America’s best friend whether they know it or not and America is Canada’s best friend whether they like it or not.”

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uh oh - I suppose soon we'll

uh oh - I suppose soon we'll be calling "Canadian Bacon" "Freedom Bacon"(that'll show those pesky Canadians with their damn universal medical insurance).

So, when will the Canadian government start proceedings at the world court to bring senior members of the terrorist administration (Bush, Cheney, Rice)to justice?

Peace

Steve

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Thank you Steve,I wracked my

Thank you Steve,I wracked my brain and overlooked Bacon.Wouldn't it be a welcome surprise if the Canadians do what our hamstrung lawmakers have failed at?

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Thanks Bryan for beating me

Thanks Bryan for beating me

...to the post on that one -

...silly as it seems, my Canadian friends laugh at the 'canadian' bacon designation for thin ham -

...sometimes I am embarrassed to be amongst such hoseheads - eh?

LFTL

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It makes me so sad and

It makes me so sad and ashamed that we, the American people, have allowed these rich thugs to destroy our country, it's reputation, it's financial future, it's environment, it's economy, it's shining place in the world.. and to destroy the American dream of every citizen here (except the 1%). We have sat on our collective rear ends and watched OUR country being pillaged and our VALUES being destroyed by a bunch of Bible thumping righteous hypocrites. And we've done NOTHING to stop it. Sure, we tried in 2006 and gave the Democrates the majority - but what have they done?? Nothing!! Not even drawing a line in the sand - which they COULD have done with the support of the majority of the American people.

"We have meet the enemy; and he is us."
Kelly, Walt

No truer words have ever been spoken in this context. Why will this faux leadership in Congress not impeach? It would be our only saving grace.

And now, Bush, who has yet to do ONE thing that is right for this country - is going to attempt to sold the recession woes. Fat chance! I can't believe anyone even cares anymore. I sm so sick of being so angry at so many things. I know why there are grumpy old folks - because they have had a belly full of the B.S. from stupid people. Natural selection used to work!

If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything.
Mark Twain

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As for Bush trying to alter

As for Bush trying to alter his legacy, I got a kick of the news from Israel, their shutting down access to Gaza in the wake of "W's" grand plans for peace to break out before he leaves office.

And yeah - on the economy - he still doesn't get it - it's his mishandling of national and international affairs that have gotten us INTO this damn mess -

Perhaps the right wing evangelists have the right idea - maybe we're in such bad shape now we need their God to fix our problems - but I doubt it. What we need are rational, responsible people in positions of power. Now, just how can we empty the halls of congress of all lawyers and replace them with engineers and scientists?

From wiki "Engineers use technology, mathematics, and scientific knowledge to solve practical problems." - hmmm.

Peace

Steve

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Ah yes... ... "W's" grand

Ah yes...

... "W's" grand plans for peace to break out before he leaves office."

...yet another sign Dumbass The 43rd ain't abidicating his throne -

...peace in the Middle East in http://www.backwardsbush.com/

...it is TO LAUGH - no way!

LFTL

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OK, Depression is the word.

OK, Depression is the word. I have bunkered in. Two years ago I bought a laundromat cash. Paid everything off but my mortgage. Lose the house I can live at my laundromat. My family and I will be okay. People, if you do not see it now... then rant when the Depression comes. It's a hard rain... it's gonna fall.

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Yep, I think so too. We had

Yep, I think so too.

We had a chance to change things all along, but too many of us were busy shopping.

Now we're just going to have to take our medicine. But I think it should be open-season on all those who set this whole fraud up only to walk away well-heeled. Sure, we should have known better -- but now they'd better run!

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"Terrorism" is a buzzword.

"Terrorism" is a buzzword. That is, it's a word meant to confuse people and muddy the waters, rather than make things clearer.

A "Terrorist" is just someone fighting a war in which he, the terrorist, is hopelessly out-gunned. Therefore, the "terrorist" engages in so-called "Fourth Generation War" tactics.

A "terrorist" can be a "resistance fighter" in many cases. In the view of the Nazis, French Resistance fighters, who gunned down French citizens who were too cooperative with the invaders, were "terrorists."

George Washington, who fought against the 100 percent legal, recognized, and established British government, was a "terrorist." The men who fought the Brits on the streets of Boston were "terrorists." The Boston Tea Party was a "terrorist act."

Which is morally worse: setting off a homemade bomb in a crowded city, killing dozens, or carpet bombing the city from 30 thousand feet, killing thousands?

What was the more "terrorist" act: the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, a city of virtually zero military value, or the suicide bombing of a pizza restaurant in Tel Aviv?

In the context of our attempted hegemony over the Middle East, the "terrorists" are more properly called "resistance fighters." We are invaders and occupiers.

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Nicely stated Pablo...! Of

Nicely stated Pablo...! Of course you've no doubt read my views concerning this ongoing "war on terror"; ie., a faceless war against a "noun". The "war on drugs" fits the same category. These are "dream wars" for the criminal, power elite that have taken over this once great nation and possibly the world.

These wars represent a goldmine to them in terms of MIC related profits. There's no one to parley; ie., to make peace and these wars can be protracted until the 12th of never; ie., truly Orwellian Wars of financial convenience for these shadowy, criminally inclined, planetary oligarchs...!

Carl Nemo **==

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You know Carl, this

You know Carl, this terrorism problem starts with children. Islam trains them to bring others into the flock or kill them. This was also the early actions done by the Christians.

A friend of mine took a bus down to visit me and had 9 year old seat mate throwing out warnings of hell and damnation at her for not being an Evangelical. I attended a music recital in a Baptist church here and the usher heard me say hello to an old friend and understood that I was divorced. At intermission she asked me which church I was married in and I said we were married by a judge in his back yard as my husband had been his Physics professor. That woman began yelling at me that my children were illegitimate and I would burn in hell when I died. I got up and came home.

This use of terrorism being planted on our children is what feeds the fires of "the war on (fill in the blanks)"

Right from wrong is gone from our early training and certainly missing from our churches and temples. Our leaders are elected to be our moral authorities. We need one-on-one moral training without a television. The religious right always looks to a religious leader even it if is the white house. Most are terrified not to look to the white house.

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The Canadian government is

The Canadian government is weenying out:

http://www.thestar.com/article/295706

Surprised?

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Hi JoyfulC... I'm not

Hi JoyfulC...

I'm not surprised at all concerning this revisionism. Stephen Harper; ie., Mr. Conservative is nothing but a Bush clone and he too is a running dog for the NWO/AIPAC/MIC; ie.,Canadian version...!

So no doubt he's received a priority call from Bushco, along with the head AIPAC Zionist and started quivering in his shoes.

Harper is involved up to his armpits in the concept of the North American Union and is all too eager to hand over Canadian sovereignty to these shadowy NWO controllers that control he, Bushco, and most leaders in Central and South America.

Hopefully Canadians will wake up and kick his traitorous ass out of office after his first term, hopefully before if he loses a vote of confidence. He's a judas goat leading Canada to slaughter.

Canadians weren't doing all that well with their long term liberal government, but little did they realize they cut their collective throats by electing Harper;ie., Mr. Conservative;ie., in his case a NWO corporatist/fascist sympathizer to the core...!

I thought I'd provide a Canadian based site that is concerned with freedom.

http://www.natural-person.ca/index.html

What's interesting is there's evidently a process in motion in the Canadian Parliament to surrender Canadian sovereignty sponsored by PM Harper!? This site is urging citizens to petition parliament to show a vote of no confidence concerning this matter. Canadians should be going ballistic hearing that this recently elected traitor is selling out their country.

What's up with this JoyfulC...?!

Carl Nemo **==

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Frankly, I don't know, Carl.

Frankly, I don't know, Carl. I took a quick look at that site and will have a better look later -- but at first glance, it appears to be the type of site I tend to approach with a grain of salt.

I agree that Harper is a Bush subservient. What is it Bush calls him? Steve? Yeesh! Stephen Harper has never gone by that name in Canadian politics, but right after Bush started referring to him as Steve, Harper obediently noted that he really did always want to be called that. Yeesh, yeesh, yeesh! I don't actually think Harper's government is significantly worse than the previous Liberals -- he's not our "Bush," in other words. I'm not sure we need another election, either. We've sort of been through the mill on elections up here in recent years!

Maybe the solution to every problem isn't to boot out the current administration, but rather for the people to let the current administration know where the line to be toed is. You hear a lot of ranting about the Bush administration, but let's face it: it's not like Americans are out in the streets revolting. They're all too busy shopping. It's the same thing here in Canada. I don't think the government is really going to take any objection too seriously as long as it's only supported by a noisy few. Only when people start making a ruckus will we see change. People don't like the price of gas -- but they keep buying it. And further, it's not like we're seeing people ditch their huge gas guzzlers or turn down their thermostats or reduce the amount of driving they do (to the shopping mall) or take the bus more often.

The business community seems devastated that Christmas shopping was a little off this year. Between you and me, we didn't spend 1-cent on Christmas here in our home -- and we had a really nice, relaxing time at home (except for our 18-year-old dog passing away). But most people did spend money on Christmas. Can you imagine the impact on big business if we all decided not to buy anything at all beyond bare minimum groceries for one month? Or if we all reduced our fuel consumption by 25%?

Unless and until Canadians and Americans are willing to make sacrifices on this order, we really can't expect to see our governments shape up. Our politicians are no different than my dogs are around here -- they know how far they can push us, and they're always looking to see if they can push us just a little further.

I'll say it again: the primary solution on either side of the border doesn't lie with politicians. It lies with we-the-people. And right now, most of them only care enough to complain. Very few are willing to actually make any sacrifice for the sake of change.

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Thanks for the reply and

Thanks for the reply and your thoughts JoyfulC. The only part of the link that I was focusing on was the lead article: Urgent Attention Required, with several .pdf/.doc type documents;ie., petitions to Parliament.

The site has some fascinating concepts and might be considered fringe to most folks since they've never truly been free in their lifetime.

We're living in a modern age "Matrix" phenomenon that's so far removed from the freedom experienced in 19th century America and Canada that they probably wouldn't be able to function without all the handouts and womb-to-tomb percs that an all-knowing, all-controlling, modern government provides; but at very stiff price, along with questionable value in these times.

My condolences to you and yours concerning the loss of your family member; ie., your dog of many years. My wife and I, now married 41 years, didn't have children so we have always doted on our pets, they too being our defacto family members. It's really tough to lose a creature that's far more than simply a pet of many years.

Carl Nemo **==

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Carl, thanks for the

Carl, thanks for the condolences.

What do you call freedom? Seriously, I'm interested to know. From reading this site and others like it, I've come to believe that there's a wide range of definitions out there. Some seem to feel that freedom is neither having access to nor having to contribute to a social net. Some seem to feel that freedom is being bound by almost no or as few laws as necessary (and living amongst other people enjoying the same lawlessness). Some seem to feel that being able to go shopping and buy whatever they want is freedom.

I'm not sure I really know what freedom is. We're told that the terrorists "hate us for our freedoms" -- but really, what do they mean by that?

I saw something on that site about the requirement for drivers' licenses, and that reminds me of a good friend of mine who one day showed up annoyed that he'd been ticketed for not having a plate on his truck. We figured maybe he'd lost it or someone stole it, but no -- he told us he never bothered to get one. !!! Another time, the same guy went to court for flying (in a commercial situation) without a license. It wasn't his first offense. The judge asked him why he doesn't just go get his license. He responded that if you looked at what it would cost him to do so and maintain it, it was cheaper and easier to get caught every few years and pay the fine. (He is a good pilot -- I'd let him fly me any day over some of the bureaucrats I met at Transport Canada who have their licenses.)

It's an interesting question. Frankly, I'm not even sure what freedom is - or even what I think it is. It bears some thought, and I'd be delighted to hear your thoughts on the matter.

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Not in the least

Not in the least Joyful,smirky threw a fit and as usual got his way,no doubt through the usual tactics of coercion ,smear, and threat.Another example of capitulation by a sovereign government to US bullying tactics. PUKE, EH?

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The biggest part of the

The biggest part of the problem is that a majority of Americans don't WANT the problem fixed.

"a government out of control and a nation unable to stop the decline."

Bush is in office, and remains in office despite the litany of lying, abuse of the Constitution, etc., because the American people put him there*, twice, and a majority still want him there. A majority don't want to stop the decline. They don't even see it as decline.

* Yeah, I know.

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Warren, I fear that you are

Warren, I fear that you are right! I have only my locals here to discuss this possible improvement in our government and many can see nothing wrong with Bush. I'm so tired of trying to discuss freedoms with these retired seniors as they have no clue what freedom is.

I fear we are too late to even suggest a change in our government. I hope it is better in your area of the country. The numbers for Paul in Nevada were apparently a fluke.

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I think maybe we live in the

I think maybe we live in the same town. Phoenix?

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